Work in Progress
Currently updating the list to make it into a table. Looks better, easier to read and adds more info. Long list so I'm saving my progress here until it is completed. If complaints are to be raised, please do so before I undertake more of this action, but I really can't see why this would be a bad thing. Slax01 08:04, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
Updated list. Once done I will do though and clear up the final column, to say whether they are names, model variants or non-model variants... should do it as I go, but I didn't think of it till now. Oh well. =.=; Slax01 22:21, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
Done. Please proof read before using. Other tables will eventually be made (fuzors, variants, non-model Zoids, and other merchandise). Slax01 09:45, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
Model Zoids
Name | Type | Designation number(s) | 1st Release | Alternate names |
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Aquadon | Frog | RMZ-05 | Edit me! | Aquazoid |
Arosaurer | Allosaurus | RZ-067 | 1987 | Strike Zilla, Raptor, Arosaur |
Attack Zoids | Various | Various | Edit me! | Command Zoids (for individual names, see page) |
Bamburian | Panda | GZ-013 | 2005 | |
Baratz Zoids | Various | Various | Edit me! | For individual names, see page |
Barigator | Crocodile | RZ-003 | 1985 (Aug.) | Kroc, Chompz, Armored Gator |
Battle Cougar | Griffin | RPZ-22 | 1990 | Storm Tiger |
Battlerover | Ornitholestes | R24-5 | 1988 | Landgallop, Gamba |
Bear Fighter | Bear | RHI-06 | 1987 | Zear, Cruncher |
Berserk Fury | Tyrannosaurus | EZ-049 | 2001 | Berserk Führer |
Bigasaur | Diplodocus | RBOZ-001 | 1983 | Giant Zrk |
Bio Kentro | Kentrosaurus | GB-003 | Edit me! | |
Bio Megaraptor | Megaraptor | GB-001 | Edit me! | |
Bio Ptera | Pteranodon | GB-005 | 2005 | |
Bio Raptor | Velociraptor | GB-006 | 2005 | |
Bio Raptor Gui | Microraptor | GB-007 | Edit me! | |
Bio Tricera | Triceratops | GB-004 | Edit me! | |
Bio Tyranno | Tyrannosaurus | GB-002 | 2005 | |
Bio Volcano | Megaraptor | GB-008 | Edit me! | |
Black Rhimos | Rhinoceros | EHI-02 | 1986 | Redhorn, Hebby Rhimos |
Blade Hawk | Hawk | Edit me! | 2005 | |
Blade Liger | Lion | RZ-028 | Edit me! | |
Blitz Haken | Velociraptor | BZD-002 | Edit me! | |
Blitz Hornet | Hornet | BZD-001 | Edit me! | Blitz Pepsys |
Blitz Sworder | Stag Beetle | BZD-003 | Edit me! | |
Boldguard | Panoplosaurus | BZ-010 | Edit me! | |
Brachiorakete | Brachiosaurus | NBZ-006 | Edit me! | |
Brachios | Brachiosaurus | EZ-012 | Edit me! | Dark Nessios, Dramadon, Brachiosaur |
Brachiozilla | Brachiosaurus/Tyrannosaurus | BZ-105 | Edit me! | Brachiorex |
Brastle Tiger | Tiger | EZ-076 | 2004 | |
Brave Jaguar | Jaguar | NBZ-01 | Edit me! | NEOBLOX Panther |
Buster Eagle | Eagle | BZ-009 | Edit me! | |
Cannon Diver | Turtle | BZ-013 | Edit me! | |
Cannon Spider | Spider | BZ-102 | Edit me! | |
Cannon Tortoise | Tortoise | RZ-013 | Edit me! | Kannon |
Cannonfort | Buffalo | RHI-12 | 1989 | |
Command Wolf | Wolf | RZ-009 | 1987 | Zarwolf |
Crimson Horn | Styracosaurus | GRZ-011 | Edit me! | |
Custom Blox Zoids | Various | Various | Edit me! | For individual names, see page |
Cyclops | Elasmotherium | CDZ-002 | Edit me! | |
Dark Horn | Styracosaurus | DPZ-10 | 1989 | |
Dark Spiner | Spinosaurus | EZ-060 | 2001 | |
Deadborder | Tarbosaurus | DPZ-09 | 1989 | Battle Rex |
Deadly Kong | Gorilla | GZ-014 | 2005 (8th Nov.) | |
Deantler | Chimera | BZ-014 | Edit me! | |
Death Raser | Therizinosaurus | EZ-074 | 2004 | |
Death Saurer | Dinosaur | EZ-021 | 1987 | Deathsaurer |
Death Stinger | Sea Scorpion | EZ-036 | Edit me! | |
Deathpion | Scorpion | E24-1 | 1987 | Zevle |
Decalto Dragon | Dragon | GZ-017 | Edit me! | Dekalt Dragon |
Demantis | Mantis | EZ-048 | Edit me! | |
Demonshead | Chimera | BZ-008 | Edit me! | |
Descat | Panther | DPZ-24 | 1991 | |
Diablo Tiger | Tiger | CDZ-01 | Edit me! | |
Dibison | Bison | RZ-031 | 1986 | |
Diloforce | Dilophosaurus | EZ-050 | Edit me! | |
Dimetrodon | Dimetrodon | EZ-065 | Edit me! | Spinefin |
Dimetroptera | Dimetrodon/Pterosaur | BZ-106 | Edit me! | Dimetra Ptera |
Diploguns | Chimera | BZ-007 | Edit me! | |
Dispelow | Buffalo | BZ-018 | Edit me! | |
Dontress | Mantis | E24-03 | Edit me! | Gigima |
Double Sworder | Stag Beetle | RZ-019 | Edit me! | |
Dragoon Nest | Lobster | ZCDX-03 | Edit me! | |
Elephantus | Elephant | RMZ-03 | 1983 | Protozoid |
Elephander | Elephant | RMZ-03 | Edit me! | |
Energy Liger | Lion | EZ-072 | 2003 (Dec.) | |
Evo Flyer | Microraptor | BZ-019 | Edit me! | |
Fire Phoenix | Phoenix | RZ-071 | Edit me! | |
Flyscissors | Chimera | BZ-005 | Edit me! | |
Furolesios | Plesiosaurus | Edit me! | 1984 | Hydrazoid |
Gairyuki | Tyrannosaurus | RZ-070 | 2004 | |
Garantula | Spider | RMZ-04 | Edit me! | Spiderzoid, Tarantulon, Legz |
Garius | Tyrannosaurus | RMZ-01 | 1983 | Tyrannazoid |
Gator | Dimetrodon | EZ-022 | 1983 | Spineback, Reptex, Gatordus |
Geno Breaker | Tyrannosaurus | EZ-034 | 2000 | |
Geno Saurer | Tyrannosaurus | EZ-026 | 2000 | T-Rex |
Geruder | Triceratops | EMZ-16 | 1985 | Zaton, Zunder, Batlar |
Gilvader | Wyvern | DBOZ-17 | 1989 | Gildragon |
Glaive Quama | Longisquama | EZ-059 | Edit me! | |
Glidoler | Duck | RMZ-02 | 1983 | Terrazoid, Terrared |
Godkaiser | Tyrannosaurus | RPZ-19 | 1989 | Cannon Caesar |
Godos | Tyrannosaurus | RZ-014 | 1983 | Trooperzoid, Spartak |
Gojulas | Tyrannosaurus Dinosaur | RZ-001 | 1983 | Zoidzilla, Terox |
Gojulas Giga | Giganotosaurus | RZ-064 | 2002 (Sept.) | |
Gorem | Gorilla | E24-07 | Edit me! | Golgola |
Gordos | Stegosaurus | RZ-008 | 1984 | Great Gorgon, Gordox, Gordosaur |
Gorgodos | Stegosaurus | RMZ-06 | Edit me! | Stegazoid |
Gorgolauncher | Gorgosaurus | RTF-02 | Edit me! | |
Gorhecks | Stegosaurus | RZ-066 | Edit me! | Stego, Gol Hex |
Gorilla Tron | Gorilla | BZ-103 | 2003 | Gorillatron, Ray Kong |
Gravity Ptera | Pterodactyl | EZ-108 | 2003 | |
Gravity Saix | Cheetah | FZ-020 | Edit me! | |
Gravity Saurer | Suchomimus | FZ-021 | 2002 | |
Gravity Wolf | Wolf | FZ-019 | Edit me! | |
Grounchar | Echidna | EZ-051 | Edit me! | Edit me! |
Gul Tiger | Tiger | DPZ-16 | 1989 | Gultiger |
Gungyarados | Dragon | DPZ-23 | 1990 | |
Gun Sniper | Velociraptor | RZ-030 | Edit me! | |
Gun Tiger | Tiger | EZ-063 | Edit me! | Edit me! |
Gunbluster | Ankylosaurus | RZ-052 | 1989 (July) | Gunblaster, Gun Blaster |
Gustav | Insect | RPZ-02 | Edit me! | Red Scavenger |
Guysak | Scorpion | RZ-002 | Edit me! | Guysack, Scoriozoid, Stang, Evil Scorpion, Gusak |
Hammerock | Gorilla | EMZ-26 | 1986 | Hammer Rock, Zore, Tobizaru |
Hammerhead | Hammerhead Shark | RZ-033 | Edit me! | Sledge Head |
Hard Bear | Bear | NBZ-02 | Edit me! | |
Hayate Liger | Lion | GZ-015 | 2005 | |
Heldigunner | Iguana | EZ-011 | 1989 | Demon Lizard, Hel Digunner |
Helcat | Panther | EZ-023 | Edit me! | Atak Kat |
Hidocker | Dinosaur | RMZ-07 | Edit me! | Brotozoid |
Houndsoldier | German Shepherd Dog | RPZ-12 | 1989 | |
Hover Cargo | Snail | ZCDX-03 | Edit me! | |
Hurricane Hawk | Hawk | NBZ-03 | Edit me! | Bright Hawk |
Ice Blazer | Doberman | DPZ-21 | 1990 | |
Iguan | Iguanodon | EZ-017 | 1986 | Zillon, Lizard, Iguanasaur |
Iron Kong | Gorilla | EZ-015 | 1983 | Gore the Lord Protector, Badox |
Jet Falcon | Falcon | BZ-022 | Edit me! | |
Killerdome | Crab | EZ-061 | 2001 | Killer Dome |
King Baron | Lion | RPZ-020 | 1989 | |
King Gojulas | Tyrannosaurus | RPZ-24 | 1990 | |
King Liger | Lion | RPZ-015 | Edit me! | |
König Wolf | Wolf | RZ-053 | 2001 (27th Oct.) | |
Lanstag | Moose | GZ-012 | Edit me! | |
Laser Storm | Chimera | BZ-017 | Edit me! | |
Leoblaze | Lion | BZ-001 | Edit me! | Genis Wolf, Infinity Leo |
Leogator | Lion/Alligator | BZ-020 | Edit me! | |
Leostriker | Lion | BZ-012 | Edit me! | |
Lidier | Lion | EHI-009 | Edit me! | |
Liger Zero | Lion | RZ-041 | 2001 | |
Lightning Saix | Cheetah | EZ-035 | 2000 | Ninjasaix |
Lord Gale | Gargoyle | BZ-011 | 2003 (Feb.) | Saint Gale |
Maccurtis | Crayfish | EZ-047 | Edit me! | Edit me! |
Madthunder | Triceratops | RZ-055 | 1988 | Thunder Tritops |
Malder | Snail | EMZ-19 | 1985 | Slime, Slithor |
Mammoth | Mammoth | RBOZ-002 | 1983 | |
Marder | Ornithomimus | EMZ-13 | 1983 | Merda, Marda, Hellrunner, Runna |
Megatopros | Triceratops | R24-04 | Edit me! | |
Megaleon | Chameleon | RZ-058 | Edit me! | Chameleor |
Missile Tortoise | Tortoise | BZ-011.A | Edit me! | Edit me! |
Molga | Insect | EZ-006 | 1983 | Slitherzoid, Kreep, Slither |
Mosasledge | Mosasaurus | BZ-003 | 2001 | |
Mugen Liger | Lion | GZ-016 | 2005 (Nov.) | |
Murasame Liger | Lion | GZ-010 | 2005 | |
Neptune | Alligator | R24-06 | 1988 | Bolide |
Nightwise | Owl | BZ-004 | Edit me! | |
Orudios | Pegasus | RPZ-18 | 1989 | Evil Pegasus |
Parablade | Parasaurolophus | BZ-024 | Edit me! | |
Pegasuros | Edit me! | Edit me! | Edit me! | Edit me! |
Power Kong | Edit me! | Edit me! | Edit me! | Edit me! |
Power Mammoth | Edit me! | Edit me! | Edit me! | Edit me! |
Power Mantis | Mantis | BZ-102 | Edit me! | Edit me! |
Pterorayse | Pterosaur | RZ-010 | Edit me! | Edit me! |
Pteras | Pterosaur | RZ-010 | 1985 | Pterasu, Rado, Ptera Striker |
Rainbow Jerk | Peafowl | GZ-011 | Edit me! | |
Rapto Caesar | Edit me! | Edit me! | Edit me! | Edit me! |
Raptojaguar | Velociraptor | NBZ-04 | Edit me! | |
Raynos | Pteranodon | RZ-039 | 1987 | |
Raysaurer | Tyrannosaurus | BZ-104 | Edit me! | Edit me! |
Rayse Tiger | Tiger | RZ-075 | 2004 | |
Red Horn | Styracosaurus | EZ-004 | 1983 | Brutox, Greenhorn |
Redler | Dragon | EZ-005 | 1986 | Zolkon, Dragonfly, Redwing, Reddra, |
Rev Raptor | Velociraptor | EZ-027 | Edit me! | Rev Rapter, Raven Raptor |
Roadskipper | Ostrich | E24-02 | 1987 | Road Skipper, Zeeva0 |
Saberlion | Lion | RZ-062 | Edit me! | |
Saicurtis | Beetle | EZ-018 | Edit me! | Scarab |
Salamander | Pterosaur | RZ-045 | 1984 | Krark, Radox, Pteramander |
Sandspeeder | Vehicle | R24 F-2 | Edit me! | Sandspeeda |
Sauro Knight | Dinosaur | Edit me! | Edit me! | |
Savinga | Flying Squirrel | BZ-023 | 2004 | |
Scissor Storm | Chimera | BZ-015 | Edit me! | |
Sea Panther | Hermit Crab | EMZ-31 | 1987 | |
Seismosaurus | Seismosaurus | EZ-069 | 2004 | |
Serpent | Edit me! | Edit me! | 1983/4 | Edit me! |
Shadow Fox | Fox | RZ-046 | 2000 | Fire Fox |
Shellkarn | Chimera | BZ-006 | Edit me! | |
Shield Liger | Lion | RZ-007 | 1985 | Shield Tiger, Fangz, Claw |
Shot Eagle | Eagle | RTF-01 | 1990 | |
Shotwalker | Spider | 24-F1 | Edit me! | Edit me! |
Sinker | Ray | EMZ-019/EZ-032 | Edit me! | Z-Ray, Stunra, Sea Striker |
Snipe Master | Velociraptor | RZ-057 | 2001 | |
Soul Tiger | Tiger | GZ-008 | 2005 | |
Spiker | Edit me! | Edit me! | Edit me! | Edit me! |
Spino Sapper | Spinosaurus | EZ-043 | Edit me! | Spinosnapper |
Stealth Viper | Snake | RZ-020 | 1986 | Snakes, Znake, Venom Snake, Venomous Viper |
Stegoganzer | Stegosaurus | NBZ-005 | Edit me! | |
Storch | Archaeopteryx | EZ-068 | Edit me! | |
Storm Sworder | Pteranodon | RZ-029 | 2000 | |
Styluarmor | Chimera | BZ-015 | Edit me! | |
Sword Wolf | Wolf | GZ-007 | 2005 | |
Tank | Edit me! | Edit me! | 1983/4 | Edit me! |
Thundercannon | Triceratops | RTF-03 | 1990 | Edit me! |
Transhawk | Hawk | Edit me! | Edit me! | |
Twinhorn | Mammoth | EMZ-28 | 1986 | Twin Horn |
Ultrasaurus | Ultrasaurus | RZ-037 | 1986 | Battlesaurus |
Unenlagia | Unenlagia | BZ-002 | Edit me! | |
Valga | Pill bug | GRZ-009 | Edit me! | |
Warshark | Coelacanth | EZ-040 | 1986 | Wardick, War Shark |
Whale King | Whale | ZCDX-01 | Edit me! | Edit me! |
Whitz Wolf | Wolf | RZ-073 | 2004 | Rez Tiger |
Zabat | Bat | EZ-044 | 2000 | |
Zaber Fang | Tiger | EZ-016 | 1984 | Sabre Tiger, Zabre, Saber Tiger |
Zatton | Brachiosaurus | EMZ-17 | 1983 | Zunder, Brox |
Zeekdober | Doberman | DPZ-13 | 1989 | Doberman |
Fuzor Zoids
The following Zoids are a combination of other Zoids. Note that the following includes Zoids that have not been released in model form.
Unreleased Model Zoids
The following Zoids have had models produced, but were never sold to the public.
Name | Type | Produced for | 1st Release | Base Zoid |
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Bio Chimera | Chimera | Zoids: Generations | Edit me! | Original |
Bio Spino | Spinosaurus | Zoids: Generations | Edit me! | Dark Spiner |
Gravity Rex | Edit me! | Seen at convention | Edit me! | Original |
Mother Bio | Tyrannosaurus | Zoids: Generations | Edit me! | Bio Tyranno |
Trinity Liger | Lion | Zoids Saga | Edit me! | Original |
Non-Model Zoids
The following table lists original Zoid designs that have never been released as a model. In addition to this list are many Zoids with designs based off existing model kits. Due to the number of these Zoids, they have been excluded from this table.
Name | 1st Appearance |
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Bio Liger | Zoids Saga DS |
Blitz Tiger | Zoids Legacy |
Geno Hydra | Zoids Saga |
Slash Liger | Zoids Web Comic |
Snipe Liger | Zoids Web Comic |
Victory Liger* | Zoids Saga Fuzors |
Victory Rex | Zoids Saga Fuzors |
*The Victory Liger was released as a One-Blox kit, but never as an actual model.
Title Change
It should be List of Zoids Models since the page doesn't include anime or video game exclusive zoids. You could add the exclusive zoids but they tend to cause problems in articles. (I swear they are jinxed)ZGWolf 14:59, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
we have a page for that List of Non-Model Zoids--Leon35 15:11, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
I know we have a page for non Model Zoids, but a link on that very page says that this is a list of all zoids. it's not so the title should be changed to List of Model Zoids. (or we could add the game exclusive which is said was a bad idea anyway) ZGWolf 15:23, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
Looking great!
For the Designation number, what's going to happen to Zoids released under a different number during different lines? (Example: Energy Liger is EZ-72 in NJR but the Fuzors EL is FZ-15) You already have Arosaurer listed as release date 1987 and that one is RHI-008 but the current designation is it's NJR counterpart's. What do we default to?
Also, are we going to include Fusion Zoids?
@ ZGWolf, I think we should keep this title the same as the models inspired the rest of the Zoids media. And re-title the non-model page "List of Unreleased Zoids" so we can have a more complete counterpart including things like Mother Bio(which still has its own article) Power Mammoth and Quad Liger. SharkWings 17:29, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
@SharkWings, I'm using their original designation number. Fusions are currently being added as variants of their respective zoids, though I may make a fuzors table as well.
@ZGWolf, once I'm done with this table I'll make tables for non-model zoids, zoids merchandise, unreleased zoids and the like. I'll probably put them all on this page, but I'll see how manageable it is first. Though I agree, it is difficult to navigate to the non-model page currently. Slax01 21:31, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
Looks like your using the NJR designation. Also, do we need every variation name on the side of this one chart?
I mean we could just have a seperate HMM table (since HMM's are getting varients of thier own) and a seperate Fuzors/fused Zoids table (because they will be listed as variations of several Zoids when technically the fusion is niether, Griffon for example isn't an Eagle type or Lion type or Unenlagia type either).
My biggest problem with this table is that the current list of zoids shows which releases each zoid was released in and their name for each release, which this table does neither of. --Azimuth727 03:17, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
The problem with that is that the releases sections, as they stand, are unreliable anyway. I've already said why on the forums. I mean, try searching the "genesis" line and see what you come up with. Until the releases are fixed up, I am reluctant to add them to the table, as I do not feel that they currently constitute wiki-grade content. However, that said, it can easily be added later once the sections are brought up to par.
I do agree that what I've currently got isn't the best table on earth, and I'm thinking that I'll remove the variants and fuzors from the final column and just leave alternate names. Variants and fuzors can be put into a separate table. If needed, merging them later would prove to be a simple task. Editing the table is easy, constructing them in the first place is the hard bit. Slax01 03:45, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
Updated up to F with the last column only having names. Slax01 02:15, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
2 minor tweaks, Genius Wolf is more of a varient (which you have seperated) than another name, and you have double Sandspeeders. Otherwise it's looking solid.
Removed the extra Sandspeeder. I also removed Genius Wolf and Crimson Horn- I notice that they are, for all intents and purposes, completely unrelated to the article that contains them, other than mild appearance similarities. In fact, they should be made into their own pages, they both appear to have enough info. Also, there are several Zoids, like the Trinity Liger, Mother Bio, Bio Spino and Bio Chimera, which are supposedly models but aren't on here (these bio's aren't on the non-model list either for that matter). Slax01 06:18, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
i have an idea. since multiple zoids have multiple designation numbers, why not replace that one box and have it say "Original Designtion number" just a thought. what r your thoughts Slax?--Leon35 01:32, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
I should point out that, due to the lenght of the list, I ended up just using the designation number that was in the infobox on the Zoid's respective page, which may or may not always be the original designation number (I don't know, I didn't check). I've changed the column- it would be better if we have a list with all registration numbers- but anyone is free to make formatting changes, the table is still a WIP after all. Slax01 01:43, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
not very good with a template. if you think i have messed up bad before, just let me edit a template, and you will see how bad i can mess it up uninentionaly. it would be best if i left it alone. you seem to be waay better with that sorta thing.
in regards to the designations, wgat about the zoids with multiple designations? hmm i guess it wont matter--Leon35 02:00, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
I suggest just putting slashes- like RZ-xxx/RPZ-xxxx/EZ-xxxx, etc. -hence why I widened the column. I'm really not great at this stuff- I'm just copy pasting it from other wikis. Slax01 02:10, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
That's the problem with semi-obscure Zoids that have a similar mold; when the Zoid (no matter how big the difference in releases, animal types, roles, intent for creation, designation #'s or factions) or its information isn't popular or lenghty, the Zoid gets tossed in with it's cousin no ifs ands or buts. If Genius Wolf had some stats and it's role in Battle Blox that could be a pretty decent article.
Concerning the placement of those "model" Zoids that got tossed around/forgotten, that's a tough call. Some had 1 model (Bios and Trinity at least) but the intent for the single model is unknown. They could have been ready-to-go prototypes or they could have just been a demonstration custom with absolutely no intent for release (I'm pretty sure the Bios were the latter). Without a direct source it's a bit fuzzy to know what Tomy/whoever the Zoids creator was had planned for the model. Depends on what you want your categories really; "non-models" are known for thier unique media appearances so you could easily fit them in that category. Or you could group them in this table under "unreleased" (I see you have some unreleased like Power Kong) because an apearance in model form is sorta-kinda the very basic definition of an unreleased model. I think your choice to keep them off this table is much better though a small notice that these guys had model would be nice.
Where are you going to put Quad Liger?
The others I can't answer- but the Quad liger will be put in a separate "merchandise" table, the format of which will be different to the above table to accommodate for the differing information- it will probably be sorted by merchandise type, with releases in a sub-column, but I have not drafted these tables yet as I don't have enough info on the subject matter(s). Slax01 02:20, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
Added more tables. Feel free to fill them out. Slax01 01:43, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
I *think* that's everything.... If no-one points out any errors in a reasonable amount of time, I'll put this on the page, and move the current page onto the talk, so that we don't loose anything by accident. Slax01 09:52, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
Quad Liger, sure it's super-obscure but at least stick it with Victory Liger, I mean it's a Zoid not just merchandise.
Genius Wolf got lost somewhere, I'd say give it a place on the list even if the article goes back to leoblaze (for now...)
Also, Murasame Liger Shinobe Custom and Knight custom could be tossed in with the Fuzors because that's what they are (well, close enough), as well as Valkyrie Ceasar, Groundrago, Bite Griffon and G2 Rex (yeah, I know you don't like Neo Blox but give 'em a shot on the list).
Attack Zoids anyone? Poor little Shotgaroo is left out again, as well as its little freinds.
Stealth Dragon could use an honorable mention in the non-model, it's relatively unique. HammerKaiser too.
Centaur could be shoved in unreleased models because it was way cooler -er- more relevant to the battle story than the likes of the Bio oddballs (which I'd still consider customs based on the whacked rules around here).
Uhhh, lets see... oh! What about the imfamous Black Zoid? Silverman wouldn't be happy if he saw his monstrosity forgotten.
Yeah, that's about it. I'd push for a varients table but that'd take forever and a day with added frustration.
Quad Liger I'll add when I get the info we need about it. citations for where the name came from, citations for the company who produced it, etc. As it stands now, it has even less info the the pilot figurines, so it can go with them until it gets the citations its lacking. From what I know of the Hammer Kaiser- it doesn't have enough info to be either classified as either a variant or a separate Zoid, therefore, to avoid missreporting fanwanking as fact, I've left it out. Stealth Dragon I cannot act on with the information I have at hand, for the same reasons as hammerkaiser. Centaur is not on this wiki, and I won't add it to this list till it is. From what I know of it, unreleased seems like a perfectly acceptable place to put it, but until the citations are provided, I won't add it. Black Zoid... we could. but its more like a wild Zoid than a Zoid Zoid. Attack Zoids, Custom Blox and Baratz have been added. The fuzors list has been edited so that its not just a copy-paste from the fuzor zoid page, and hence updated. And by the way, I don't appreciate false rumours being spread about me, so don't make ignorant claims about my preferences. Slax01 02:17, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
Quad Liger, like a good number of Gashapon Zoids, is Tomy's by right but sold in Yujin (source: the packet Quad came in; and Tomy's site a long time ago). Who designed it is another quest, but several Zoids are like that (gravity Zoids are one example, Hasbro sold them but Tomy might have been in on the design) Electrogigante might havesome answers on Quad's origins if you want a more reliable source than me. Set 11 was released in 2003 if you want a date and no designation number was given. It's a Liger type for that section. Stats and faction may have been on Tomy's site in the days of yore but, like the comics, they're long gone. There's some infofloating around for stats, attacks and weaponry though I wouldn't trust it. List wise I'd just stick it in non-model and toss Gashapon on the side.
No Centaur page? I'll fix that.
What to do with Black Zoid... it could go in the Wild Zoids page like you said, or it could go in Silverman's page because it is essentially Silverman, or it could be a new page because it's a pretty important Zoid in the UK Comic. Any suggestion?
I see Slash Liger made the unreleased cut, how about putting in Aero Liger and Proto Zaber in there. The game considers them new and uniqueZoids even if the average fans don't. Infact, the whole "those are Saber and Shieldy varients" thing is a myth made by people here, before Zoids Wiki they were as seperate as Blade Liger and Dark Horn, just check VSII or Battle Legends... hello tangent.
Fanwanking, fun word. Stealth Dragon and HammerKaiser might be worth listing link-less for ease in searching rather than info. When listed, it will indicate that they are indeed Zoids that existed in some sort of media. Even if users won't be able to find a page on these two, at least they can know S.Dragon was Zoid from the Manga and HammerKaiser was a Zoid from the Anime. Sorta like how the Fuzors table shows which Zoids are used to create each Fuzor even when a few (Trans Rayse, Shinobe Liger) don't have thier own page or much information. If they still don't make the cut, eh.
That's sorta the reason a Varients table would be handy, try looking for Sabre the shiny kitty, it's under Zaber Fang or Sabre the Gravity Saurer pilot. Someone, say a guy who found his Zoids 2 collection, looking for a bit of wiki info on Sabre only knowing it was a Zoid would find nothing in the S section, how would he know to go all the way down to Z? Same with Great Saber or Terox, sure they'll get a re-direct but a confusing one. Eh, too much work anyhow.
@Quad Liger- That info doesn't belong here- it belongs on the Quad Liger page. Once its added there I'll add it here.
@Black Zoid- a Silverman page would work- there are alot of pages that need making- but I've been prioritising this page, as its the most important navigation-wise. But as you can see, it's taking a while.
@Aero and Proto- I've not added anything from the Video Games(other than the ones with their own pages) because I don't have a citation for them. this is because I can't get my database on Saga DS filled out (with DS being the most recent). If I could, I am more than happy to put them in, where approrpiate, thanks to the nifty tree-table that Saga DS has, but until then, I can't be certain which Zoid goes into which tree (the Areo I'm pretty sure would be in the slot between Spark Liger and Shield Liger DCS- both of which I think are simply shield Liger mods, but the Proto Zaber could be in one of three different lists). I don't have VS, so I can't check those games. And that page you linked to doesn't tell me they are uniqe Zoids- only that they were released in Cyber Drive. I may be misreading, but hey, I can't learn Japanese overnight xD
@Hammer Kaiser, given the anime info, this not going on this list, any more than the sub Prozen uses to move that Glacier to New Helic City. Sure, additional information may prove it is a stand-alone Zoid that should be mentioned, but until those citations are provided, its not going on here. Stealth Dragon I know nothing about, so it could go somewhere, but again, would need citations to justify the location.
@Variants table- Yeah, it'd be a good thing to have. I can't do it myself, unless I can figure out how to fill out this stupid Saga DS database-diagram (I have the friggin Zoid, so why is it not on the database- WHY???) Slax01 00:02, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
Is the Quad info up to Wiki par? I'll put it on Quad's page if the info's good.
How about a a better link with the actual manual listingProto and Aero as seperate Zoids. Actually, the manual is pretty handy, it shows Geno Hydrais a new Zoid as well as Buster Furyand the like. Best part is, the manual Zoids are considered "base Zoids", no varients are included in the manual, 'cause that would be a HUGE book if it did. (The other link I got about 'new something something Zoido' but I'm a crappy translator too. Those new guys aren't available in the first VS and they can't be downgraded to or upgraded from a different Zoid either)
Varients, hmm, I could take a crack at it if you could explain how to make a table. Really, I was just thinking varient name, which Zoid it is a varient of, and (if available) maybe the designation number, maybe. Still that'd take a loooong time, and most of the list is darn right spiffy in its current form, really cool stuff dude.
Saga database would be so much easier if they just went the road of Pokemon. Pffft, I got the Zoid, now I gotta find another one to battle and hope the data is collected before I destroy it? C'mon, I'm going to fry a couple hundred Zoids that way! Maybe my brain too...
@Quad Liger: *shrug* I dunno XD I really don't know stuff all about the models- put it on the page and hopefully someone else will comment either way (hence why I say add it to that page- it gets lost on this page)- seems fine to me though.
@scans, well, the buster fury is not a stand-alone Zoid- it is a fuzor (and I will be fixing the fury page, but there's a shitload of problems with the current info that I've been trying to sort out first- with only limited success). Therefore, these scans give me no reason to assume the areo and proto are unique. Not saying you're wrong, just that the info I've been given doesn't support the addition.
@how to make a table: copy paste what I've got now, it's all pretty straightforward- the first line ( style blahblahbah) is just setting the border, all the ones following an ! are headers, the width (in pixels?) in quotes, followed by the column's name. Then the "|-" means start a new row, while the "|" means start a new column, and the curly brackets end the table. If you have rich text on, I recommend turning it off. it sucks.
Slax01 09:28, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
Objection!
I still think we need to note which names go with each release of each Zoid and which releases each Zoid was released in (even if it had the same name). Other than that, I think this looks pretty good.--Azimuth727 20:50, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
Sure, no problem by me, provided the releases are cleaned up first. no point putting "NJR, Fuzors" if NJR and fuzors are on the same page. That just confuses people (notably: myself). Slax01 09:28, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
The Zoids under "unreleased model Zoids" (other than Gravity Rex, which seems to have gotten to prototype stage) all only existed as customs, so I don't know if that's the best thing to call them. Unreleased implies that they could have been produced, but weren't. Pointytilly 11:45, September 18, 2010 (UTC)