Reason I deleted all the character info is simple: it is redundant. No need to have the same thing mentioned twice. I (pre-emptively) agree the template looks bad as is, but I'm sure someone can figure out how to beautify it. Slax01 06:46, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
Legacy DB entries
Mary Champ's DB entry is as follows. Add where appropriate.
Harry's older sister. A daughter of arich man, and collecting Zoids is her hobby. After falling in love with Bit's Liger Zero, she challenges Bit in Zoids battles.
Just to be annoying
Technically, this is just "new century" without the "zero". Slax01
A notice: In lieu of any argument to the contrary, this will be moved to "new century" in a day or so. The "zero" will still be mentioned in-article, but will not be used in the article's name. Slax01 23:06, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
Two Things:
- Our naming standards refer to the most accepted Western name for something, which in this case is "New Century Zero" or "New Century / Zero." It's not a bad idea to create a redirect for "Zoids: New Century" to this page, but it shouldn't be moved.
- After you moved this page, we would have to change all of the Zoids pages that were ever featured on the show, the character pages, and templates. That's a lot of work, especially over something that's "Just to be annoying"...Azimuth727 00:21, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
For point 1:
"Our naming standards refer to the most accepted [official] Western name for something"- the inserted word makes a huge difference. Popularity is only a criteria when choosing between translations of equal "officiality". I have found the following citations: On my NC0 DVDs, it is labelled "Zoids: New Century". In Zoids Legacy, it is labelled simply "Zoids ZERO". In this case popularity could only be used to choose between "zero" and "new century" (but not "New Century Zero". Now, there may be other citations- for instance the manga (which I believe uses "new century"), but until someone forwards a citation, I can only make judgements with the info I have on hand. Hence why I start pages like these rather than simply up and move them.
For point 2:
If you find the work too difficult, don't do it. We have a "what links here" page, and as far as I'm concerned, failing to remove misinformation because "its too difficult" defeats the purpose of having a wiki in the first place. Why even bother creating a wiki if no-one cares that the information in it is actually true or not? If I were to move the page, all I'd do was alter the redirect pages and let the wikia users do the rest of the links and text (I am a wiki user, so I would do it myself if need be). Furthermore, to clarify what "just to be annoying" means it will be annoying to fix. I wasn't writing it because I wanted to be annoying, I was writing it because I knew it would be annoying to fix. But either way, it needs to be fixed.
Of course, it can all be averted if someone just gives me a citation for the current name. Slax01 12:23, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
If there's debate on which English name to use, we could always call the main article Zoids: New Century /Zero (which...all over Japanese stuff), clarifying the various English shortenings (Zoids New Century, Zoids ZERO, etc) in the first bit of the overview and using them as redirects. As it is, I can't remember if the US version ever used "New Century Zero". Pointytilly 18:20, September 15, 2010 (UTC)